I have duplicate Monaco fonts: one is at /System Folder/Fonts/Monaco (it’s from Mac OS 9), version 3.0, and the other is at /System/Library/Fonts/Monaco.dfont , version 5.1d1e1. Even if I disable the Mac OS 9 font, though, I still get text that looks like the top window.
Does this only happen in a specific application, or does it happen across all applications?
My Font Book says Monaco resides in /System/Library/Fonts, where I would expect it to be. When forced to size 9, Font Book also displays Monaco exactly the way I remember it from System 7.
Simone: I think you nailed it. It’s only in TextEdit. TextWrangler displays it correctly, and Adium (weirdly enough) displays it correctly except that the lowercase ‘o’ is squished from its left and right sides.
It displays like your top window for me in TextEdit. I only have one version of Monaco, at /System/Library/Fonts/Monaco.dfont. I’m using 10.4.7 on PPC.
OK, so after doing a bit of searching around, it seems that your “Monaco 9” looks strikingly like my “Andale Mono 10” with antialiasing turned off. Take a look:
It’s not an exact match, as you can see some big differences in the symbols and numbers especially (#, *, %, , 0), as well as more minor differences in other characters (my i doesn’t have the bottom serif, my m is missing two pixels that yours has, etc). But it does seem to be quite close in overall appearance.
Are you sure you didn’t accidentally set the font to Andale Mono?
To clarify, in TextEdit it looks like the old Mac OS window at the top, not like the OS X window below, so mine is displaying correctly (if the old look is supposed to be the correct one, that is).
July 6th, 2006 at 22:05:00
I just set TextMate to Monaco 9, non-anti-aliased. Looks like your above screenshot to me. 10.4.7 on Intel.
Speaking of strange fonts, the window title of your OS X shot looks strangely thin. Are you using a theme?
July 6th, 2006 at 22:22:00
It’s Helvetica 12. I decided to use OS X in retro mode for awhile – Helvetica was also the system font in NeXTStep, although it wasn’t anti-aliased back then.
July 6th, 2006 at 23:26:00
So what’s going on with your Monaco 9, then? My Monaco 9 also looks like the top window, not the bottom one.
July 6th, 2006 at 23:44:00
Odd. When you go to Font Book and get info on Monaco, what does it say is its location?
July 6th, 2006 at 23:55:00
I have duplicate Monaco fonts: one is at /System Folder/Fonts/Monaco (it’s from Mac OS 9), version 3.0, and the other is at /System/Library/Fonts/Monaco.dfont , version 5.1d1e1. Even if I disable the Mac OS 9 font, though, I still get text that looks like the top window.
Does this only happen in a specific application, or does it happen across all applications?
July 7th, 2006 at 00:59:00
My Font Book says Monaco resides in /System/Library/Fonts, where I would expect it to be. When forced to size 9, Font Book also displays Monaco exactly the way I remember it from System 7.
July 7th, 2006 at 04:09:00
Simone: I think you nailed it. It’s only in TextEdit. TextWrangler displays it correctly, and Adium (weirdly enough) displays it correctly except that the lowercase ‘o’ is squished from its left and right sides.
Weird. Very weird.
July 7th, 2006 at 06:14:00
It displays like your top window for me in TextEdit. I only have one version of Monaco, at /System/Library/Fonts/Monaco.dfont. I’m using 10.4.7 on PPC.
July 7th, 2006 at 08:46:00
Bizarre, because TextEdit is the first app that I opened to test this out, and the font displays correctly for me in TextEdit.
July 7th, 2006 at 12:00:00
OK, so after doing a bit of searching around, it seems that your “Monaco 9” looks strikingly like my “Andale Mono 10” with antialiasing turned off. Take a look:
Andale Mono 10
It’s not an exact match, as you can see some big differences in the symbols and numbers especially (#, *, %, , 0), as well as more minor differences in other characters (my i doesn’t have the bottom serif, my m is missing two pixels that yours has, etc). But it does seem to be quite close in overall appearance.
Are you sure you didn’t accidentally set the font to Andale Mono?
July 7th, 2006 at 12:14:00
Yup. I’m not able to reproduce it now, though.
Maybe I passed it to jeff through that screenshot. :D
July 7th, 2006 at 13:18:00
To clarify, in TextEdit it looks like the old Mac OS window at the top, not like the OS X window below, so mine is displaying correctly (if the old look is supposed to be the correct one, that is).
July 7th, 2006 at 15:59:00
jeff: Ah.
Random oddness, then.