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		<title>By: Peter Hosey</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam/comment-page-1#comment-4075</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;3571&quot;]Have you tried http://akismet.com/?
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.[/quote]

First, you should get an email when you comment that allows you to approve your own comment. (That&#039;s the Comment Authorization plug-in at work.) I found your comment in the moderation queue while I was cleaning out all the spam comments — apparently there were two legitimate comments among the 3360 comments in the queue, and I&#039;ll update this post in a few minutes. This suggests to me that either you didn&#039;t get the email or I got about 370 spams in between your comment and when I started going through the queue. (For that matter, I had 49 new spams waiting for me when I got done.)

And Akismet has an insanely high percentage of false positives. We found this out on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://trac.adiumx.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adium Trac&lt;/a&gt;; we started to have lots of wiki and ticket spam, so we installed the Akismet plug-in for Trac. Soon after, we started getting lots of bug reports by email because Akismet would reject their ticket submissions as spam. I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s any difference between Akismet on a Trac and Akismet on a blog, but this experience combined with Akismet&#039;s secrecy regarding the exact operation of the plug-in (sense a theme here?) makes me very averse to using Akismet.</description>
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Have you tried <a href="http://akismet.com/?" rel="nofollow">http://akismet.com/?</a><br />
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.</p>
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<p>First, you should get an email when you comment that allows you to approve your own comment. (That&#8217;s the Comment Authorization plug-in at work.) I found your comment in the moderation queue while I was cleaning out all the spam comments — apparently there were two legitimate comments among the 3360 comments in the queue, and I&#8217;ll update this post in a few minutes. This suggests to me that either you didn&#8217;t get the email or I got about 370 spams in between your comment and when I started going through the queue. (For that matter, I had 49 new spams waiting for me when I got done.)</p>
<p>And Akismet has an insanely high percentage of false positives. We found this out on the <a href="http://trac.adiumx.com/" rel="nofollow">Adium Trac</a>; we started to have lots of wiki and ticket spam, so we installed the Akismet plug-in for Trac. Soon after, we started getting lots of bug reports by email because Akismet would reject their ticket submissions as spam. I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any difference between Akismet on a Trac and Akismet on a blog, but this experience combined with Akismet&#8217;s secrecy regarding the exact operation of the plug-in (sense a theme here?) makes me very averse to using Akismet.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hosey</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam/comment-page-1#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;3992&quot;]yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I&#039;d recommend immediately installing both. :)[/quote]

&lt;a href=&quot;http://spamkarma2.notlong.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spam Karma 2&#039;s wiki page&lt;/a&gt; is amusing — it&#039;s filled with spam, itself. ;) (Note to all MediaWiki administrators: You need to turn on login. Yes, even though it&#039;s a wiki. Either that or write some WP-esque spam-prevention plug-ins.)

My problem with both plug-ins is that they do not disclose how they work, which makes me leery of installing them. I don&#039;t want to install anything that will block a legitimate comment, and if I don&#039;t know what the plug-in does, it&#039;s hard for me to decide (1) whether it is likely to be effective and (2) whether it is likely to block any legitimate comments.

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://unknowngenius.com/blog/archives/2004/11/19/spam-karma-merciless-spam-killing-machine/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;introductory post for Spam Karma&lt;/a&gt; does provide plenty of information on how SK works, but that&#039;s SK 1.4; I don&#039;t know whether SK 2 does anything more, less, or differently, and I&#039;m not interested enough to find out. Bad Behavior has no useful information at all — only that it does something or other involving HTTP headers.

[quote comment=&quot;3992&quot;]I&#039;m just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I&#039;m subscribing.[/quote]

Glad to hear it. :)</description>
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yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I&#8217;d recommend immediately installing both. :)</p>
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<p><a href="http://spamkarma2.notlong.com/" rel="nofollow">Spam Karma 2&#8242;s wiki page</a> is amusing — it&#8217;s filled with spam, itself. ;) (Note to all MediaWiki administrators: You need to turn on login. Yes, even though it&#8217;s a wiki. Either that or write some WP-esque spam-prevention plug-ins.)</p>
<p>My problem with both plug-ins is that they do not disclose how they work, which makes me leery of installing them. I don&#8217;t want to install anything that will block a legitimate comment, and if I don&#8217;t know what the plug-in does, it&#8217;s hard for me to decide (1) whether it is likely to be effective and (2) whether it is likely to block any legitimate comments.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/archives/2004/11/19/spam-karma-merciless-spam-killing-machine/" rel="nofollow">introductory post for Spam Karma</a> does provide plenty of information on how SK works, but that&#8217;s SK 1.4; I don&#8217;t know whether SK 2 does anything more, less, or differently, and I&#8217;m not interested enough to find out. Bad Behavior has no useful information at all — only that it does something or other involving HTTP headers.</p>
<blockquote cite="http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam#comment-3992"><p>
I&#8217;m just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I&#8217;m subscribing.</p>
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<p>Glad to hear it. :)</p>
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		<title>By: steve cooley</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam/comment-page-1#comment-3992</link>
		<dc:creator>steve cooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I&#039;d recommend immediately installing both. :)  

http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/


I&#039;m just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I&#039;m subscribing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I&#8217;d recommend immediately installing both. :)  </p>
<p><a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/" rel="nofollow">http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/" rel="nofollow">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I&#8217;m subscribing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam/comment-page-1#comment-3571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried http://akismet.com/?
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried <a href="http://akismet.com/?" rel="nofollow">http://akismet.com/?</a><br />
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.</p>
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