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	<title>Comments on: One month of spam</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Hosey</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam#comment-4075</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 08:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="3571"]Have you tried http://akismet.com/?
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.[/quote]

First, you should get an email when you comment that allows you to approve your own comment. (That's the Comment Authorization plug-in at work.) I found your comment in the moderation queue while I was cleaning out all the spam comments — apparently there were two legitimate comments among the 3360 comments in the queue, and I'll update this post in a few minutes. This suggests to me that either you didn't get the email or I got about 370 spams in between your comment and when I started going through the queue. (For that matter, I had 49 new spams waiting for me when I got done.)

And Akismet has an insanely high percentage of false positives. We found this out on the &lt;a href="http://trac.adiumx.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Adium Trac&lt;/a&gt;; we started to have lots of wiki and ticket spam, so we installed the Akismet plug-in for Trac. Soon after, we started getting lots of bug reports by email because Akismet would reject their ticket submissions as spam. I don't know if there's any difference between Akismet on a Trac and Akismet on a blog, but this experience combined with Akismet's secrecy regarding the exact operation of the plug-in (sense a theme here?) makes me very averse to using Akismet.</description>
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Have you tried <a href="http://akismet.com/?" rel="nofollow">http://akismet.com/?</a><br />
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.</p>
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<p>First, you should get an email when you comment that allows you to approve your own comment. (That's the Comment Authorization plug-in at work.) I found your comment in the moderation queue while I was cleaning out all the spam comments — apparently there were two legitimate comments among the 3360 comments in the queue, and I'll update this post in a few minutes. This suggests to me that either you didn't get the email or I got about 370 spams in between your comment and when I started going through the queue. (For that matter, I had 49 new spams waiting for me when I got done.)</p>
<p>And Akismet has an insanely high percentage of false positives. We found this out on the <a href="http://trac.adiumx.com/" rel="nofollow">Adium Trac</a>; we started to have lots of wiki and ticket spam, so we installed the Akismet plug-in for Trac. Soon after, we started getting lots of bug reports by email because Akismet would reject their ticket submissions as spam. I don't know if there's any difference between Akismet on a Trac and Akismet on a blog, but this experience combined with Akismet's secrecy regarding the exact operation of the plug-in (sense a theme here?) makes me very averse to using Akismet.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hosey</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hosey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment="3992"]yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I'd recommend immediately installing both. :)[/quote]

&lt;a href="http://spamkarma2.notlong.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Spam Karma 2's wiki page&lt;/a&gt; is amusing — it's filled with spam, itself. ;) (Note to all MediaWiki administrators: You need to turn on login. Yes, even though it's a wiki. Either that or write some WP-esque spam-prevention plug-ins.)

My problem with both plug-ins is that they do not disclose how they work, which makes me leery of installing them. I don't want to install anything that will block a legitimate comment, and if I don't know what the plug-in does, it's hard for me to decide (1) whether it is likely to be effective and (2) whether it is likely to block any legitimate comments.

The &lt;a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/archives/2004/11/19/spam-karma-merciless-spam-killing-machine/" rel="nofollow"&gt;introductory post for Spam Karma&lt;/a&gt; does provide plenty of information on how SK works, but that's SK 1.4; I don't know whether SK 2 does anything more, less, or differently, and I'm not interested enough to find out. Bad Behavior has no useful information at all — only that it does something or other involving HTTP headers.

[quote comment="3992"]I'm just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I'm subscribing.[/quote]

Glad to hear it. :)</description>
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yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I'd recommend immediately installing both. :)</p>
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<p><a href="http://spamkarma2.notlong.com/" rel="nofollow">Spam Karma 2's wiki page</a> is amusing — it's filled with spam, itself. ;) (Note to all MediaWiki administrators: You need to turn on login. Yes, even though it's a wiki. Either that or write some WP-esque spam-prevention plug-ins.)</p>
<p>My problem with both plug-ins is that they do not disclose how they work, which makes me leery of installing them. I don't want to install anything that will block a legitimate comment, and if I don't know what the plug-in does, it's hard for me to decide (1) whether it is likely to be effective and (2) whether it is likely to block any legitimate comments.</p>
<p>The <a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/archives/2004/11/19/spam-karma-merciless-spam-killing-machine/" rel="nofollow">introductory post for Spam Karma</a> does provide plenty of information on how SK works, but that's SK 1.4; I don't know whether SK 2 does anything more, less, or differently, and I'm not interested enough to find out. Bad Behavior has no useful information at all — only that it does something or other involving HTTP headers.</p>
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I'm just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I'm subscribing.</p>
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<p>Glad to hear it. :)</p>
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		<title>By: steve cooley</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam#comment-3992</link>
		<dc:creator>steve cooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I'd recommend immediately installing both. :)  

http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/


I'm just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I'm subscribing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yipes, have you tried and been displeased with Spam Karma 2 and Bad Behavior?  I'd recommend immediately installing both. :)  </p>
<p><a href="http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/" rel="nofollow">http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/" rel="nofollow">http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/</a></p>
<p>I'm just starting to learn obj-c and cocoa, and I like your blog, so I'm subscribing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://boredzo.org/blog/archives/2006-12-14/one-month-of-spam#comment-3571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you tried http://akismet.com/?
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you tried <a href="http://akismet.com/?" rel="nofollow">http://akismet.com/?</a><br />
You can a free key if you sign up for a WP account.</p>
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